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Wow, the stock market!!

September 18th, 2008 at 07:24 pm

I can't get over the stock market today. Did I see it right? Has it been way up and way down today?? When my dh comes home from work, he asks me how much money he lost today!
I don't even want to look at my funds right now.

12 Responses to “Wow, the stock market!!”

  1. Joan.of.the.Arch Says:
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    Ha! I've had the radio off today and have not logged onto a single news or business site. I overdid it a couple of days ago.

  2. merch Says:
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    Up huge becease RTC part 2 coming back for bad debt.

  3. Broken Arrow Says:
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    This is just my personal opinion, but I think we're looking at the worst of it. However, that doesn't this financial collapse is over yet. Nor have we seen the bottom. And the sector has yet to begin to stabilize.

    Which means, most likely, more bad news is yet to come. However, today is quite decidedly a rally! A great, great day for me! Big Grin I doubt if it'll hold though. Not like that freak run on July 15th, I think this is just a spike on a piece of good news. We'll have to see tomorrow.

  4. fern Says:
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    I HATE it that once again they're freely using OUR MONEY to bail out AIG. Let the damn company fail. They brought it on themselves, did they not??

  5. baselle Says:
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    What the Las Vegas dealer says after you are busted: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for playing.

    I kinda feel like that right now.

  6. swimgirl Says:
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    We have an extra paycheck coming in a few days... and I'm using the entire thing to buy stock. We don't have any urgent needs right now, and as a woman on NPR said today, "When winter coats go on sale for 30% off, I buy one. I will do the same for stocks!"

    I've been making some decisions, but of course, I will continue to watch until the check arrives.

  7. disneysteve Says:
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    We actually "made" $7,200 today. Our REIT was up over $6/share. A few other things were up, too. Of course, we were down over $16,000 as of yesterday.

  8. merch Says:
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    Fern:

    This is the deal. Just to be clear about the deal. It's an $85 billion 2 year revolving credit loan at 3 month LIBOR + 850 bps.

    The loan is collateralized by all the assets of AIG which is estimated to be be about $1 trillion. Just the air leasing and foriegn life insurance division are estimated to be worth about $94 billion.

    The other piece is a 79.9% equity stake in AIG, where the government can veto dividends to common and preferred shareholders.

    Now the 3 month LIBOR is around 2.88. Or, the interest on the loan is 11.38%. That ain't cheap money and the government has enough power to liquidate the company and get their money first. But it did this to give AIG time to unravel and not have to put everything on a fire sale.

    They should make more money then chrysler deal which netted 100 million.

  9. fern Says:
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    Thanks, merch. I'm not sure i understood everyhing you said, but it seems clear you're following the AIG bailout more closely than me. Let's hope the govt practices restraint and wisdom...for once.

  10. disneysteve Says:
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    fern, the bottom line is that some of these bailouts will actually result in a PROFIT to the government in the end, thereby benefiting taxpayers.

    Allowing companies like AIG that are so intricately woven into the financial fabric of this country (and other countries) to fail would be catastrophic to the entire economy and simply wasn't a feasible option.

  11. fern Says:
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    If that is true, Steve, then it should have been run and managed by the federal government, not as a private company that enriches its owners.

  12. disneysteve Says:
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    fern, there is a lot of debate right now about the fact that executives from these companies still earned millions while the companies were going down the tubes. Something needs to be done about CEO and other exec compensation. I have a feeling that when this whole mess is over, we're going to see more regulation of banking and the securities industry, something we've needed for a long time.

    AIG had 74 million clients in well over 100 countries. A company like that going bankrupt would have far-reaching effects.

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