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September 22nd, 2007 at 12:54 pm

Depressed, yes that is how I am feeling this morning. I am not the type of person who feels depressed very often.
I did not have a perfect life, but who does? I am so grateful for all the wonderful things that I have in my life.

So, I hope some of you can send me some cherry thoughts.

When we got home last night there was a call on the answer machine from FIL.

Of course, my dh called him right back. It seems that his house has a bad leak and he needs a whole new roof, not just new shingles. It will cost $12,000.

Of course, he does not have the money. (I don't know why, they have been toHawaii 4 times the past 6 years)

DH has 2 younger brothers, but the youngest is a real bum and probably does not have $50.
The other brother has his own tile business, lives in a lake front house, has lots of big vehicles, owns 5 horses and vacations all the time.

Ok, my dh said he would give his father half the money for the roof. FIL says no way does son #2 have the money for half. Dh has to pay for the entire new roof.

There is no way FIL can ever pay us back. He is 85 and he and his girlfriend live on social security only.

So, I am depressed that I work to save so hard and now I have to basically give away $12,000 to people that don't try to save anything.

I know you all probably will understand. We clip coupons, take surveys, do anything we can to save a few dollars. To give our money to a good cause makes us happy, but to give it away to people who squander their money everyday on lottery tickets and cruises makes me feel depressed.

I know, I will get over it and I should just be happy that I have the money to give!

28 Responses to “Depressed”

  1. anonymouse Says:
    1190466827

    I really feel for you!

    Why is the roof so expensive? Have they obtained other quotes? I hope they're not being scammed because they're over 80yrs old.

  2. Carolina Bound Says:
    1190467240

    I am so sorry. I know what it's like to be obligated to help family, even when they won't help themselves. So frustrating.

  3. Broken Arrow Says:
    1190467661

    Awww, yeah. That is rather depressing, isn't it? To know you've worked so hard to save that kind of money, and you're basically giving it to people who will never understand or appreciate the work it took you to get there.

    Not only that, but 12k is a massive amount of money to me.

    As for the bright side, we all know that you and your husband swooped in and saved the day. You are the hero in this story.

    Text is Or how about this and Link is http://www.thecuteproject.com/
    Or how about this?

  4. rob62521 Says:
    1190468918

    Ima,

    You and your dh are good people and although it's frustrating to give up your hard earned money you are the better people for doing so and taking care of them.

  5. Ima saver Says:
    1190470833

    It is more than just shingles, the entire roof has to be replaced and it is a duplex. I hope they are not getting ripped off. Son #2 and son#3 both live in the same town but never offer to do anything for them. We live in a different state.

  6. homebody Says:
    1190473379

    Maybe DH should take a week off and go put the roof on himself with the brothers help!

    Our new roof cost just under $12,000 this year here in California, 1650 square foot house plus garage (50 year shingles).

    Your FIL must own the Duplex right? This may sound really mean, but get a lein on it so you get reimbursed when his estate is settled or get the cheapest roof you can. Call the roofing companies yourself and ask to have the bill submitted directly to you if you are paying it.

    Good luck with this. I am sorry you are having to deal with it, but you and DH are good people.

  7. Ima saver Says:
    1190474675

    Thank you homebody!

  8. homebody Says:
    1190476869

    Maybe DH should take a week off and go put the roof on himself with the brothers help!

    Our new roof cost just under $12,000 this year here in California, 1650 square foot house plus garage (50 year shingles).

    Your FIL must own the Duplex right? This may sound really mean, but get a lein on it so you get reimbursed when his estate is settled or get the cheapest roof you can. Call the roofing companies yourself and ask to have the bill submitted directly to you if you are paying it.

  9. boomeyers Says:
    1190478199

    Awww Julie! It is hard to be taken advantage of. Especially when you are a good person and will go ahead and let them. I agree with homebody, get your own bids if you are paying and make sure you deal with the company directly and pay them directly. Don't give FIL the money to pay them!!
    Things freely given like this will come back to you twofold!! Smile

  10. Ima saver Says:
    1190478893

    Thank you boomeyers. I don't think we ever realized that they did not have some money put aside for things like this. They have always freely gone on vacations including a cruise last year and a trip to Chicago. My BIL having no money totally blows my mind!! He easily maked more than double what my dh makes. (It is not what you make that counts, but what you keep)

  11. princessperky Says:
    1190478950

    I totally agree, if you are going to help, do all the work if possible to make sure you are only roofing the house, not helping the Hawaii fund.

    As to the lien..well he might be in debt up to his ears to pay for Hawaii..you might not want to be financially attached to him at all.

  12. scfr Says:
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    Gosh, Ima saver ... So sorry to hear about the predicament you and your DH are in. Your SA friends here can certainly feel your pain.

    Others have given some great suggestions.

    Here is one more suggestion: What if, instead of giving them the cash outright, you and your DH took the time to help your FIL come up with the funds himself. Specifically, what if you helped them get a REVERSE MORTGAGE on their house? For someone in your FIL's situation, with no cash assets but equity in a home, a reverse mortgage may be a useful thing. This is of course assuming that he hasn't already taken a reverse mortgage and used it to finance those vacations.

    This might tick of your BIL, because if your FIL gets a reverse mortgage it may end up wiping out any inheritance your BIL would get, but who cares? That is not your problem.

    Good luck to you and your DH! We're all thinking of you.

  13. frugalhousewife Says:
    1190481196

    What a tough situation. I can see this being me and my dh somewhere down the road with his parents. I know we would never get any help from his siblings, and his parents are spenders rather than savers. I do agree with handling the roofing yourself. As you have posted there are plenty of less than qualified people in the world. If it is your money, you should be able to take care of things with no complaints from FIL.

    On a cheery note - you are doing a good thing. I have to think it will all catch up with your BILs in the end. Living well is the best revenge, and it is obvious you are living better than your BILs.

  14. monkeymama Says:
    1190481723

    I am sorry - what a bummer.

    I guess you can just be grateful you have the means to help. I agree - ask to be billed directly, or get a cheaper room to help them through.

    ((HUGS))

  15. katwoman Says:
    1190488489

    Aw Ima, I really am sorry.

    Is this a done deal? What I mean is, has your husband already decided to give his father the money? Why not just have him call his own brother (the one that is doing so well he can keep $horses$) and discuss some options?

    I like the lien idea, BTW.

  16. Ima saver Says:
    1190489214

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I like the one about the reverse mortgage but that won't work. 15 years ago when MIL died, FIL put the duplex into all 3 son's names, so sadly, they all three own it outright. It is to be sold and split 3 ways when FIL dies, but dh will never be able to recover the $12,000 from them.
    What I hate is that they just assume we will do it and never offer to try and pay us back a little something. In the meantime BIL and wife spend a week at Disney World every few months or take weeks off to fly somewhere to fish. My dh works 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and i try to save every way that I can.

  17. Nic Says:
    1190489824

    I would be angry,not depressed. If all 3 own it,all 3 should pitch in to help. The one who's a bum can provide the labor.

  18. threebeansalad Says:
    1190509034

    It sounds like you're going to be stuck paying for it, so you may as well look for the silver lining and be thankful you are in a position to help out family in need (even if the need occurs from misguided actions).

  19. Maismom Says:
    1190510137

    Oh, I am really sorry, and I understand exactly how you feel. It is so frustrating, isn't it? Other people gave you really good suggestions. Good luck, and I hope you will find some kind of solution (or peace of mind, I'd say.....) for you.

  20. baselle Says:
    1190512086

    I feel for you. Its tough being thought of as the ant in the family (think ant vs grasshopper). Worse, all the grasshoppers in your family behave even more grasshoppery because, well, they know they have an ant in the family. And all the grasshoppers use guilt and coercion along with eating ants out of house and home: put up or you're a cheap, miserly (expletive).

    Another fear - that's just the estimate. If they have a cost overrun, are you expected to shell out of that too?

    Perhaps this solution. Because the GA real estate market is slowing down, times are tough for you too. How about offering 9-10K because that's all you can afford? Maybe, just maybe, it might cause the grasshopper to think twice before assuming that the ant will bail them out completely. More importantly, at least then you have a little bit of control over the situation.

    Its not perfect - it does require telling a little white lie with conviction and a certain amount of gusto. And it is a little wicked.

  21. starfishy Says:
    1190515688

    Goodness - what a drag. I can totally understand why you would feel depressed and angry; it doesn't seem like there is any choice involved, it sounds like you feel helpless because it's a done deal.

    I'm curious why DH feels like he has to pay for the entire thing when there are other living, breathing family members around? Has he considered sticking to his offer to pay for half saying that's all you have available to contribute and good luck coming up with the other $6000?

    In fact, if I was one of three siblings who own the house, I would send 1/3 of the money and have the other two cough up their shares, using loans, if necessary.

    What is DH afraid would happen if he decided not to save the day? Honestly, people figure out solutions when someone sets a limit or says no - it's just a hard thing to let them do so.

    Unsolicited advice aside, I am truly sorry to hear that you are faced with this dilemma. Good luck.

  22. EmptyPockets Says:
    1190516617

    Your feelings about the situation are easy to understand. Whether it's easy or not, your husband needs to talk with his two brothers and come to some type of agreement. Since the duplex is going to be split between all three of them, then all three of them need to have some skin in the game. Maybe the brother with the lakehouse, etc., can sell some stuff. I think your husband is being the good son, but he doesn't need to be a martyr. His brothers at least need to be strongly asked to help out.

  23. miclason Says:
    1190519719

    ((hugs))...it's an awful situation...
    I don't know much about horses, other than they are really expensive...couldn't BIL get rid of his stable to pay his 1/3??...I really don't think DH should pay for the whole thing and, if it comes to that, he really should think about some sort of document stating that he WILL be paid back for 2/3 of it!..they're abusing you guys!...((hugs))

  24. homebody Says:
    1190559110

    I see no reason a lien would not still work. Personally I think you need to contact an attorney just for a legal perspective. One hour of time should take care of it. It's worth the $200 or $300.00 it will cost and perhaps he/she could address other issues with co-owning a rental.

    Now that you have explained more, there is no way I would pay to take care of that duplex alone. If it is not kept up, it is going to effect everyone's investement/inheritance.

  25. Ima saver Says:
    1190564377

    homebody, I will take your advice and contact an attorney about a lien if we decide to pay for the entire roof ourselves.

  26. Amber Says:
    1190586205

    I am sorry Ima, but I do know how you feel...it is ok to vent. But remeber God will bless you 3x's as much

  27. Thrifty Ray Says:
    1190601061

    Sorry to hear about this Julie. I agree with the others that you should get additional bids to see if there is a way to do this less expensively.

    I'm not sure how your DH feels about helping his dad out...but hopefully he is in a good place with it...I know right now I am grateful for everything I can do for my dad while I still have him...I completely understand that you both have worked long and hard for what you have...I hope that you both find a way to make an unfortunate situation work for the best for everyone. You are good people to even consider shouldering the financial responsibility.

  28. fern Says:
    1190664977


    You're in a tough spot. I wouldn't be happy about it either, but homebody had an excellent idea, so you can reimbursed by the estate. It's only fair.

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