women who frequent a local forum forum that I am on.
They don't like the fact that I talk about saving money.
They check out what I say on this forum to see if they can find out anything to put on the local forum to critize me.
They did that today!
One is thirty two years old. I owned my own house free and clear, when I was 32 years old, she doesn't.
They critize that I am not frugal because I own a corvette.
I own a corvette because I have been frugal all my life. I think it is pretty childish to have someone follow you around on the different forums. What an exciting life they must have!!
XX and XXX
February 25th, 2007 at 05:51 pm
February 25th, 2007 at 06:31 pm 1172428274
Envy is an emotional cancer that is best cured by gratitude of ones own bounty.
I agree totally, it is a sad sign of ones life when they must stalk someone online to come up with something to complain about. Phooey on XX and XXX.
February 25th, 2007 at 06:51 pm 1172429475
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You know what works for you, and that is what matters.
February 25th, 2007 at 07:27 pm 1172431647
February 25th, 2007 at 08:00 pm 1172433648
the fact that today 2/25 admin saw fit to remove posts and replies that were off topic in the 'what frugal thing did you do' thread implies that the posts that were made were not appropriate. the fact that 'coosa creek' (who 'sounds' like ima to me, so that's my assumption) thanked admin for this action implies that she was not the flamer in these inappropriate posts, but the flamee.
not sure who you are, reaping, but perhaps you should lookup the definition of 'frugal'. it doesn't mean living without luxuries, it doesn't mean hoarding one's money, and it doesn't mean living with nothing. the main meaning is spending and saving money wisely.
fru·gal /ˈfrugəl/ [froo-guhl]
1. economical in use or expenditure; prudently saving or sparing; not wasteful: a frugal manager.
2. entailing little expense; requiring few resources; meager; scanty: a frugal meal.
February 25th, 2007 at 08:00 pm 1172433658
But we all know people like that, that think saving and budget are foolish things to do. People that live paycheck to paycheck.
February 25th, 2007 at 08:49 pm 1172436582
I'm not sure I would want to frequent that forum anymore if I were you. These "girls" sound very childish. I wouldn't want to waste my time corresponding with them. Stick around here where people like you!
February 25th, 2007 at 08:56 pm 1172437005
But then, what do I know. Only what she posts for the rest of the world to read.
February 25th, 2007 at 09:01 pm 1172437272
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February 25th, 2007 at 09:06 pm 1172437605
This is all due to watching where and how I spent my $$$$.
There will ALWAYS be someone who is envious,coveting,etc. It's human nature.
So you keep on doing what ever works for you. You rock! And you're STILL my "shero!"
February 25th, 2007 at 09:09 pm 1172437791
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February 25th, 2007 at 10:03 pm 1172441012
How many of your friends here have jobs that pay $8.00 and have children to raise? How many husbands have jobs that MIGHT pay $18.00 per hour and have a 1, 2, 3, 4 or more children, a mortgage to pay, put food on the table, put clothing on the backs of their family, etc. If more people were like some of them, we would live in a much better place. At least they care for their family AND take care of their famlies. There are MANY more things in life that are MUCH more important than MONEY.
I have seen you say over and over again on the other forum where you and your husband go out and eat almost every night. I have never heard where that is economically sound or frugal.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:04 pm 1172441086
February 25th, 2007 at 10:16 pm 1172441768
I am sure most of the folks on the forum are hard working and doing the best that they can. I have often offered to help them get their working teenage children into mutual funds at a young age. Instead, their kids are spending $200 a month on telephone bills. (one of the kids said that)
I am just trying to say that everyone can save a little, even $5 a week would help. On this forum, we try to come up with ways to save other small amounts. Like washing clothes in cold water or turning off the water heater. That way we are able to put more money into our mutual funds or our roths.
You have no idea how many waitresses I have encouraged to start saving and open a roth ira. I have given them all kinds of paper work from the mutual fund companies. I only want to help, not hurt anyone.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:27 pm 1172442466
You might be in a stage of life, where you are struggling, and I know that is hard, because I've been there and done that. Ima Saver, is in her sixties, and has " paid her dues". If you are able to learn some ideas on how to economize and plan for the future, you might be in a place, when your kids are grown, to eat out often, have a car that isn't economic, but is fun, and live like no one else. Don't begrudge someone who has more that you, who is in a much different stage of life. If you plan for the future, you will be there some day too. She could probably tell you some stories about how rough she had it thirty years ago. We can all learn from each other.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:30 pm 1172442601
Leave all your frugal savings advise here and don't try to push your standards and ideas on someone else. Invite them to your blog or some other site. You might find more resectiveness that way. You constantly come on like you are superior/better than they are. You brag and brag and brag about every nickle you save. I know it turns me off and alot of other people also. Is that what you are trying to do? I thought you were trying to help them? Direct them here, if they come well and good. If they don't, at least you tired, BUT then drop it!
I think from todays reactions, you are not making friends. And have made some who are not friends.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:30 pm 1172442607
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February 25th, 2007 at 10:43 pm 1172443416
I think she thinks I am trying to rub it in or something and I am honestly not. I just want to show people that you don't have to make the big bucks in order to save.
I think she is a nice person and also very intelligent. I just need to quit boring the people on the other forum.
I want to set this straight, we are not rich. My husband earns $25 an hour just like most builders in this are and that is now. For most of his working years he made $10-$15 an hour here. He has to spend a fortune each year buying tools.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:43 pm 1172443432
if you belong to a forum focused on X and someone speaks about a topic Y that causes unrest or makes people uncomfortable, then by all means ask for discussions to please remain on topic or create a specific arena for touchy subjects. but, remain on forum X. it is poor form to follow the person to a community that is in fact focused on topic Y and insert yourself with no intent to contribute to the community, but instead do nothing but point out how topic Y causes people to feel bad on the topic X forum.
as an adult, we should all realize we have no control over the actions and reactions of anyone but our selves. if someone says something that you find offensive, belittling, or upsetting in the grocery store, by all means let them know it there. but, do you get in your car and follow them to the drug store so you can let them know why, or continue the conversation? no, because it would be absurd, childish, and unseemly. why is it acceptable online?
life is hard and money is tight, it's pretty much that way for everyone. the whole point of THIS online community is to find ways to save a little so we can enjoy life now AND 50 years down the road. please feel free to participate if you think you can learn something OR help someone else learn something. just because your situation is worse than mine or better than mine doesn't make either one of us better than the other. just because i make a good salary doesn't mean i'm not frugal, nor does it mean i'm a spendthrift. i am who i am, just as you are who you are. we have people here who are exceedingly well off and those that are unemployed and literally unable to make ends meet. we have those that are debt free and those that are facing loosing their homes. we have retirees and teenagers, and everything in between. that's the beauty of savingadvice.com.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:58 pm 1172444333
There is a big difference between being frugal and being "cheap" and "stingy". A lot of the people here can afford to be more generous because they are frugal. I can help family members and sometimes friends because I have been frugal, and am not in debt up to my eyeballs. Ima has talked about helping out a young waitress, with gifts of money. How does that equate to being "cheap", or "stingy"? I don't want to attack you. I think you may be going through some hard times, but don't waste your time or energy, being so angry and spitefull. It won't improve your situation.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:01 pm 1172444514
February 25th, 2007 at 11:03 pm 1172444629
Ima, you are the age of my mother and if anyone spoke to her as disrespectfully as this woman has done to you, I would leap to her defense the same way. Just where I'm coming from. That and you have been nothing but kind and helpful here, and I don't like seeing anyone tear you down.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:06 pm 1172444764
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Enough said.
Is anyone but me going to skip the Oscars tonight and read a good book?
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February 26th, 2007 at 02:13 am 1172455992
I just want to say that Frugal, whoever you are, Ima can afford the things she has because she IS frugal. You could seriously learn a thing or two from her. Jealous much?
And Ima, I would LOVE for you to teach me about mutual funds. I am kinda young I think. LOL
You just shake the haters off {{{HUGS}}}
February 26th, 2007 at 02:45 am 1172457905
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February 26th, 2007 at 03:27 am 1172460452
And Ima, I would LOVE for you to teach me about mutual funds. I am kinda young I think. LOL
You just shake the haters off {{{HUGS}}}
Not exactly! but have fun! much
February 26th, 2007 at 03:35 am 1172460928
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February 26th, 2007 at 04:18 am 1172463532
And Ima, I would LOVE for you to teach me about mutual funds. I am kinda young I think. LOL
You just shake the haters off {{{HUGS}}}
Not exactly! but have fun! much"
I do and will continue to. Thanks for the concern
February 26th, 2007 at 04:34 am 1172464470
you keep building things up with whatever names ya can ok.. ya hear.. take care!
February 26th, 2007 at 06:51 am 1172472666
I do struggle to pay bills and I find NO jealousy toward Julie, her home or her CAR! Her husband busts his butt for what they have and Julie makes sure the bills get paid and the money gets saved and invested. What a wise wife she is. And if they enjoy eating out every day, that is fine! Why buy the food at the store and cook it, if you enjoy getting out and dining with others you enjoy talking to? I'm sure a $100 a week grocery bill evens out to a $100 a week resturant bill and if that is something they are willing to splurge on, who cares?
I agree if someone is talking about Y on an X blog, don't read it! I skip over lots of stuff on our blog (no offense to anyone! :-) ) We have such a variety of things to choose from, don't read what you don't want too! Thats why we live in America! Freedom of choice! Save your own money and go buy your own Corvette! :-)
February 26th, 2007 at 12:57 pm 1172494678
BECAUSE their experiences and GENEROSITY matter in their world to those that love them close at hand and because they are willing to share them here with us 'virtual' strangers. I've already learned so much from them!
Hang Tough Ima - you make me proud when I can be frugal just like you and you make me proud when you enjoy your current rewards that are built on a foundation of careful prudent behaviour thru the years. Enjoy your successes right out loud here with us ALL YOU WANT because it is seeing that the results of our labors do reap a future harvest, that causes MANY of us here to wish to emulate you.
Keep On Trucking Ima Saver!!
February 26th, 2007 at 02:01 pm 1172498476
Right or wrong, agree or disagree, it is indeed a very interesting and lively discussion here.
It's also interesting to see the other side of the fence on this as well, good or bad.
February 26th, 2007 at 04:27 pm 1172507230
February 26th, 2007 at 05:45 pm 1172511903
Ima, we love you here. I am so sorry that you have to deal with this. Many hugs!!!!
February 26th, 2007 at 06:15 pm 1172513735
I have a relative who maybe makes $20-$30k/year at best (no college degree) in a very pricey area - owns his home about outright AND he drives a CORVETTE! YEs it is possible. You know what, he has never spent a dime on much else, and he works ALL The time. I *get* you and your Corvette. I Think this is why I enjoy your posts so much, you would fit well in our family. I know firsthand you don't need to make six figures to get there.
On my local forums people get annoyed with me too, usually because they assume I am already rich, didn't have to work very hard, etc. Their loss. I always imagine in my head myself sitting on the beach sipping margaritas at 55 or something, when I make other financial sacrifices, what do I care that no one else thinks this life is possible. It rubs me the wrong way when people don't think it is possible to get ahead driving used cars, or working a 2nd job to save up money, etc. Sad thing is they lose, not me.
Unfortunately I have seen a lot of cattiness and it always comes down to jealousy plain and simple. I have better things to worry about like caring for my family, enjoying life, giving back to the community, then to participate in this kind of cattiness. So be it. Try try try not to let it get to you, and you are lucky to have us too.
((HUGS)))
February 26th, 2007 at 09:09 pm 1172524171
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February 27th, 2007 at 05:37 pm 1172597860
as Tina says this forum is about saving $- if we disagree about other things we should let it slide otherwise no one would ever be able to have a sane exchange-